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Ok so he's not Madara...than which Uchiha is he?

How does this confirm he is NOT Madara? Although Madara has the Mangekyou, he is not limited to the MS and can use the regular Sharingan if he so wished...

I still think Madara ish dead...

But the fact that Tobi = Madara and Tobi/Madara = alive is confirmed... :-S

Madara cannot use regular sharingan because he has ETERNAL mangekyou....and besides Sasuke saw what madara looked like when he revealed himself and yet when he found out that Danzo had become hokage he did not say Madara he said Danzo...

but tobi never actually said he was madara did he, he only stated that he ad madaras power an dthat it resided in him, he never flat out sai dhe was madara.

But the fourth told Naruto that Tobi was Madara. =|

I was talking to somebody the other day about Danzo being Tobi they said, no because Danzo's right eye was covered by bandages and Tobi's sharigan was on the right.

Well BAM!

I wouldn't doubt that it was put there by surgery, same as Kakashi

Umm I swear Tobi/Madara can use the regular sharingan it even shows it he only uses eternal mankeyou when he has to and must. Also Tobi/Madara are the same person and Danzo is either Obito using Orchimaru's experiments to change him dramtically which is not likey or Danzo is Tobi/Madara or either his brother and Obito fused or something like that.

Perhaps Danzo sent out some Root ANBU to retrieve Obito's body, because Kakashi only took one eye, and he had Obito's other eye surgically transplanted...

well in case you guys didnt know.. Madara has two sharingan eyes. Danzo only has 1

1 Obito lost BOTH Eyes, one was crushed by a gaint rock, the other was given to Kakashi.

2. Danzo never opens his left eye, so we don't know if there is a sharingan there or not. BUt keep in mind, for Tobi/Madara we only saw ONE Sharingan.

3. ITs clear that Madara is Both Danzo and Tobi. Tobi can't be pyhsically touched, because he more of an advanced fomr of the Akatsuki's Astral Projection, while Danzo is his actual body.


Overall, we dont know if Madara has 1 or 2, nor do we know that for Danzo, but its kinda clear Madara = Tobi = Danzo. >_> So yeah.

Chris Kees wrote:

1 Obito lost BOTH Eyes, one was crushed by a gaint rock, the other was given to Kakashi.

2. Danzo never opens his left eye, so we don't know if there is a sharingan there or not. BUt keep in mind, for Tobi/Madara we only saw ONE Sharingan.

3. ITs clear that Madara is Both Danzo and Tobi. Tobi can't be pyhsically touched, because he more of an advanced fomr of the Akatsuki's Astral Projection, while Danzo is his actual body.


Overall, we dont know if Madara has 1 or 2, nor do we know that for Danzo, but its kinda clear Madara = Tobi = Danzo. >_> So yeah.

In the latest manga 455, Danzo opens his left eye revealing the Sharingan. Read up.

The Sharingan can be deactivated, duh! WHhy would Dazno keep his Sharingan activated all the time? And just to clear it up, the Eternal MS means that the user will not go blind form over-use of the MS, because the blindness is the biggest drawback of the MS. It doesn't mena that it will be activated FOREVER the Uchiha would die from chakra over-use because of it, look at what Kakashi has to do stop his Sharingan form draining all his chakra. Moving on, Sasuke never saw Madara's full face, only a small section that resemlbes Danzo's face. And Obito cannot be Danzo because, if he was alive, he would be the same age as Kakashi, and Danzo's what, 40 or 50 years old or something? Furthermore, if Danzo got the Sharingan from someone else, then he wouldn't be able to use it as effectively as an Uchiha, nad I doubt he would e able to kil those ninja attacking him (who are probably Sound ninja sent be Kabuto). Remember, Kakashi only rocks with his Sharingan due to his copying craze, otherwise he can't use it like an Uchiha would, Itachi said so himself. The same case would apply with Danzo, correct?

Pendo, it was the righ eye, not the left one.

And Max, the below pic has been placed here to prove you WRONG.

Pendo wrote:

In the latest manga 455, Danzo opens his left eye revealing the Sharingan. Read up.

Er, actually it is his right eye that he opens. His left remains closed. I personally think that this was drawn as such to keep us guessing. If he had opened both eyes, we would be more certain of the answer to this problem.

Just going to say that Madara is not Danzou. It's too contradictory.

well I'm gonna say Madara is Hanzo and that he never really died

Danzo is either Hanzo's brother or Fugaku (Sasuke's father) presumed fake death

either way I believe it's an Uchiha that finally has become a kage through all of Konoha's BS


may Danzo is just Danzo...Madara's brother

Fox wrote:

Pendo wrote:

In the latest manga 455, Danzo opens his left eye revealing the Sharingan. Read up.

Er, actually it is his right eye that he opens. His left remains closed. I personally think that this was drawn as such to keep us guessing. If he had opened both eyes, we would be more certain of the answer to this problem.

I mean from the readers perspective it was the left eye, sorry xD

Eh......

No.

Madara CAN'T be Danzou, if he is then there's a huge contradiction. Madara is supposedly all powerful and shiz, right? WELL, recall Danzou is the one who ordered Itachi to slay his whole clan. Itachi did so BUT he didn't touch his brother, Sasuke. The reason Sasuke has been spared this whole time is that Itachi has been threatening Danzou... I doubt Madara would stand for Itachi threatening him...

Plus, it's VERY possible Danzou got the sharingan transplanted. Afterall, the whole clan was slain. And who's to say Danzou has not been doing nothing but training his Sharingan?

Either way, I think this is getting a little out of hand with the whole sharingan crap. When Danzou showed he had one, I wasn't even surprised. How about doing something straightforward Kishimoto? That'll knock my socks off.

I don't know, I'm just all like... Not... excited about Naruto.. Damn eye whores.

Agreed Sudeki, lol.
Maybe if Naruto's father turned out to not be the fourth, but really Kakashi!!!
LE GASP!!! Impossible...But a very good shocker

What about the only as yet Uchiha aside from Tobi to not have there face Shown...The dude Itachi killed....

Sudeki wrote:

Madara CAN'T be Danzou, if he is then there's a huge contradiction. Madara is supposedly all powerful and shiz, right? WELL, recall Danzou is the one who ordered Itachi to slay his whole clan. Itachi did so BUT he didn't touch his brother, Sasuke. The reason Sasuke has been spared this whole time is that Itachi has been threatening Danzou... I doubt Madara would stand for Itachi threatening him...

Well maybe the simple fact that Madara wanted Sasuke to live? I mean, if he wanted to kill Sasuke, he could do it right now, what's stopping him? He has a use for Sasuke, and if he was Danzo, he could use the "Itachi threat" to keep his hands off Sasuke and make sure no one hamred him. It all fits nicely in my opinion.

And what about him, Vallen?

Kabochimaru wrote:

Sudeki wrote:

Madara CAN'T be Danzou, if he is then there's a huge contradiction. Madara is supposedly all powerful and shiz, right? WELL, recall Danzou is the one who ordered Itachi to slay his whole clan. Itachi did so BUT he didn't touch his brother, Sasuke. The reason Sasuke has been spared this whole time is that Itachi has been threatening Danzou... I doubt Madara would stand for Itachi threatening him...

Well maybe the simple fact that Madara wanted Sasuke to live? I mean, if he wanted to kill Sasuke, he could do it right now, what's stopping him? He has a use for Sasuke, and if he was Danzo, he could use the "Itachi threat" to keep his hands off Sasuke and make sure no one hamred him. It all fits nicely in my opinion.

And what about him, Vallen?

Madara just managed to get Sasuke on his side. Danzou wants Sasuke killed. Madara wants to destroy Konoha. Danzou wants to protect Konoha. Madara has no interest in becoming Hokage. Danzou wants to become Hokage AND now is the Hokage. Madara wants to capture the 9-tails. Danzou wants Naruto to be kept safe by forcing him to stay at Konoha. See the contradictions? It doesn't fit at all. Furthermore Pein would have detected Madara's chakra at Konoha if Madara was Danzou. Plus there's the fact that Madara asked Zetsu who the current Hokage was. If Madara was Danzou he would've known already.

The only common things they share is the fact Danzou has a sharingan (which he obviously can't deactivate hence the bandages whilst Madara can). It's like saying that Ino is Deidara, they're both blonde and have their hair covering one of their eyes. It is possible however that Danzou might have managed to get one of Madara's eyes or Obito's.

the sharingan can only be deactivated by true uchiha. kakashi cannot deactivate his, and danzo seems to use the bandages the same way that kakashi uses his headband. Danzo was one of the people that ordered the slaughter of the uchiha, so he could have easily stolen an eye then.

Also obito's other eye taht wasnt given to kakashi was unuseably because of a rock or somthing.